Washington DC Jazz Oral History Project, Chapter 23 – Final Chapter in Part I, “Straight-Ahead Jazz”

“I heard a young minister, William Lamar from Metropolitan AME Church, say, ‘All music is God’s music!’” –The Rev. Dr. Sandra Butler-Truesdale

The Rev. Dr. Sandra Butler-Truesdale

THE REV. DR. SANDRA BUTLER-TRUESDALE is the founder and director of DC Legendary Musicians, Inc. I interviewed her on May 9, 2017 for the Washington DC Jazz Oral History Project. That interview took place at the historic Howard Theatre, and I am pleased to share part of that interview with you.

*The following passages contain excerpts from the full interview.

“This is my home. I am a fourth-generation Washingtonian. I call myself a Washington DC historian. It’s an unofficial title only because I am not a learned historian. I did not get a degree as a historian. But, because I have been here all my life, and, somehow people are always asking me questions about Washington DC, Channel 24 gave me that title as a historian for Washington, DC . . .”

“I am going to tell you that there are two Washington DCs. There is the ‘Federal City ‘and then there is the ‘Community’ part of Washington DC. I am not a ‘Federal City’ historian. I am a ‘Community’ historian. That is different, because a lot of people don’t really know that there is a city that surrounds the federal enclave. . . . There are people who really don’t know that there are people who actually live in Washington DC.”

“There is an endearment, I think, among those of us who were born here, who are residents here. As a matter of fact, there is, according to those of us who were born here,  a difference between the ‘Washingtonian’ and  the ‘Native Washingtonian.’ There is even a difference in ‘how many generations of Washingtonians’ you think you are. . . Terms of endearment: ‘Native Washingtonian’ and ‘Washingtonian.”. . . I am a fourth-generation ‘Native Washingtonian!’”

“. . . The whole city is mine, but I am a “Northwest Girl.” My mother and my grandmother and my great grandmother all were from Northwest Washington. We come from what was once known as “Midcity” and is now known as Dupont Circle. I was raised–my mother, grandmother, and great grandmother–at 1458 Corcoran Street NW, Washington DC . . . Northwest . . .”

“. . . I heard a young minister, William Lamar from Metropolitan AME Church, say, ‘All music is God’s music.’ I had never really thought about it that way. I had never really thought about ‘secular,’ in particular. I always loved music. I was raised on March and Jazz and Classical music I became involved in religious music at the age of nine, at the Church of God pastored by Elder Lightfoot Solomon Michaux. I sang in several choirs. I still had not figured out that there was a difference in the music. Dr. Lamar explained that for me. [He is] a brilliant minister in the AME faith.”

 

 

Interview Date: May 9, 2017

All Interviews Conducted, Recorded, and Reviewed by

Dr. Regennia N. Williams

Life Member, Oral History Association

Founder and Director, The RASHAD Center, Inc.

For more information, please visit: https://rashadcenter.wordpress.com/.

 

*Photograph by Dr. Regennia N. Williams; Courtesy of Dr. Regennia N. Williams.

 

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http://dclmusicians.org/

 

 

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About Dr. Regennia N. Williams, Founder, President, and Executive Director

Dr. Regennia N. Williams is the Founder and Executive Director of The RASHAD Center, Inc., a Maryland-based non-profit educational corporation. Williams holds a PhD in Social History and Policy from Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio. A native Clevelander and a four-time alumna of Cleveland State University, information on RASHAD's “Praying Grounds, African American Faith Communities: A Documentary and Oral History” project is now available online at www.ClevelandMemory.org/pray/, a site that is maintained by CSU's Library Special Collections, home of the Praying Grounds manuscript collections. Praying Grounds was the primary inspiration for the launching of the Initiative for the Study of Religion and Spirituality in the History of Africa and the Diaspora (RASHAD) at CSU, and links to RASHAD's scholarly journal and newsletter are also available on the Praying Grounds site. On April 28, 2020, the RASHAD Center, Inc. became a tax-exempt 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. In 2010, Dr. Williams was a Visiting Fulbright Scholar at Nigeria’s Obafemi Awolowo University, where she taught history and directed a RASHAD-related oral history project that focused on the role of religion in recent Nigerian social history. Other research-related travels have taken her to Canada, China, France, South Africa, and Austria. In 2013, she conceived and produced “Come Sunday @ 70: The Place of Duke Ellington’s Sacred Jazz in World History and Culture, c. 1943-2013,” a project that included scholarly presentations and performing arts activities. From September 1993 until May 2015, she was a faculty member in the Department of History at Cleveland State University. She served as a Fulbright Specialist at South Africa's University of the Free State in the summer of 2019, and completed a short-term faculty residency at Howard University in the fall of 2019. She is based in Cleveland, Ohio. As a public scholar, her current research projects focus on African American history and culture, especially as it relates to music, religion, and spirituality. She is a member of the Oral History Association, the Western Reserve Historical Society, and the National Museum of African American History and Culture.
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